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Pialga
Posts : 535 GU Credits : 5270 Join date : 2010-10-25 Age : 30 Location : Somewhere In my head
| Subject: New Dragon Team Thu Oct 28, 2010 5:11 pm | |
| Admittedly, Dragon is my favorite type. Dragonite w/ Wide Lens Nature: Timid Ability: Inner Focus EV's: (Atk,SpA,Spd) idk raised it too long ago -Dragon Rush -Fire Blast -Thunder -Aqua Tail Aerodactyl w/Rock Jewel Nature: Jolly Ability: Pressure EV's: 252 ATK, 252 Spd -Rock Slide -Acrobat -Earthquake -Taunt The jewel items only work once, so I hope it goes away so I can take advantage of acrobat. Charizard w/Life Orb Nature: Lonely Ability: Blaze EV's: Again, a long time ago -Heat Wave -Air Slash -Dragon Pulse -Earthquake Kingdra w/Persim Berry Nature: Jolly Ability: Swift Swim EV's: 252 atk, 252 spd -Waterfall -Outrage -Body Slam -Dragon Dance Sazandora(KingGihdora) w/Choice Scarf Nature: Timid Ability: Levitate EV's: 252 SpAt, 252 spd -Dragon Pulse -Dark Pulse -Fire Blast -Earth Power/Draco Meteor Not sure if EP or DM is better LockJaw(Ononnokusu) w/ Sash Nature: Jolly Ability: Mold Breaker EV's: 252 atk, 252 spd -Double Chop -Earthquake -Rock Slide -Dragon Dance. Cool, I made the first RMT on here. | |
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BlackandWhite
Posts : 458 GU Credits : 5142 Join date : 2010-10-26 Location : :D
| Subject: Re: New Dragon Team Thu Oct 28, 2010 6:24 pm | |
| Well the team is great and all, but there is too much offensive pokemon... | |
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Pialga
Posts : 535 GU Credits : 5270 Join date : 2010-10-25 Age : 30 Location : Somewhere In my head
| Subject: Re: New Dragon Team Thu Oct 28, 2010 7:20 pm | |
| - BlackandWhite wrote:
- Well the team is great and all, but there is too much offensive pokemon...
are there any defensive dragons? | |
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Evil Oogie
Posts : 98 GU Credits : 4993 Join date : 2010-10-25 Age : 31 Location : Casper, Wyoming
| Subject: Re: New Dragon Team Thu Oct 28, 2010 7:32 pm | |
| - Pialga wrote:
- BlackandWhite wrote:
- Well the team is great and all, but there is too much offensive pokemon...
are there any defensive dragons? There are some that can be made bulky, but none that are truly "defensive" that I can think of. | |
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X
Posts : 630 GU Credits : 5113 Join date : 2010-10-26
| Subject: Re: New Dragon Team Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:51 am | |
| If you're looking for a defensive dragon, I would go for Gyarados, it has high HP with decent Def and Spe. Def.
Just out of interest is this going to be a singles, doubles or triples team?
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Jared
Posts : 178 GU Credits : 5121 Join date : 2010-10-26 Age : 28 Location : Massachusetts
| Subject: Re: New Dragon Team Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:50 am | |
| - Psycosmic wrote:
- If you're looking for a defensive dragon, I would go for Gyarados, it has high HP with decent Def and Spe. Def.
Just out of interest is this going to be a singles, doubles or triples team?
Unless stated, refer to all teams as a single OU team | |
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X
Posts : 630 GU Credits : 5113 Join date : 2010-10-26
| Subject: Re: New Dragon Team Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:03 am | |
| - Jared wrote:
- Psycosmic wrote:
- If you're looking for a defensive dragon, I would go for Gyarados, it has high HP with decent Def and Spe. Def.
Just out of interest is this going to be a singles, doubles or triples team?
Unless stated, refer to all teams as a single OU team Ok, that doesn't effect what I said then. | |
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Shnoogle
Posts : 123 GU Credits : 5078 Join date : 2010-10-27
| Subject: Re: New Dragon Team Fri Oct 29, 2010 2:11 pm | |
| - Psycosmic wrote:
- Jared wrote:
- Psycosmic wrote:
- If you're looking for a defensive dragon, I would go for Gyarados, it has high HP with decent Def and Spe. Def.
Just out of interest is this going to be a singles, doubles or triples team?
Unless stated, refer to all teams as a single OU team Ok, that doesn't effect what I said then. In other words... Yes, it is a singles team Dragonite should be Naive or Hasty. Either one should work because his resistances are both physical (Fight, Bug etc...) and special (Water, Grass etc...) Also, Acrobat doubles in power only if your opponent has no item, not if you yourself don't have one | |
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Pialga
Posts : 535 GU Credits : 5270 Join date : 2010-10-25 Age : 30 Location : Somewhere In my head
| Subject: Re: New Dragon Team Fri Oct 29, 2010 3:54 pm | |
| - Shnoogle wrote:
- Psycosmic wrote:
- Jared wrote:
- Psycosmic wrote:
- If you're looking for a defensive dragon, I would go for Gyarados, it has high HP with decent Def and Spe. Def.
Just out of interest is this going to be a singles, doubles or triples team?
Unless stated, refer to all teams as a single OU team Ok, that doesn't effect what I said then. In other words... Yes, it is a singles team
Dragonite should be Naive or Hasty. Either one should work because his resistances are both physical (Fight, Bug etc...) and special (Water, Grass etc...)
Also, Acrobat doubles in power only if your opponent has no item, not if you yourself don't have one
"The power is also doubled if the user has no held item." is what it says on Bulbapedia. | |
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Momo
Posts : 376 GU Credits : 5159 Join date : 2010-10-25 Age : 98
| Subject: Re: New Dragon Team Fri Oct 29, 2010 3:55 pm | |
| Whats the stats on the Dragon pokemon (I don't know 5th gen) | |
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Pialga
Posts : 535 GU Credits : 5270 Join date : 2010-10-25 Age : 30 Location : Somewhere In my head
| Subject: Re: New Dragon Team Fri Oct 29, 2010 4:07 pm | |
| - Momo wrote:
- Whats the stats on the Dragon pokemon (I don't know 5th gen)
it's on serebii, Sanzadora is a Dragon/Dark type, basically a special sweeper, with 125 SpA and 98 spd. Just check the serebii BW pokedex. | |
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BlackandWhite
Posts : 458 GU Credits : 5142 Join date : 2010-10-26 Location : :D
| Subject: Re: New Dragon Team Fri Oct 29, 2010 9:26 pm | |
| - Pialga wrote:
- BlackandWhite wrote:
- Well the team is great and all, but there is too much offensive pokemon...
are there any defensive dragons? Like what others said, and most of your sets that you make are too offensive (no not that way). | |
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Pialga
Posts : 535 GU Credits : 5270 Join date : 2010-10-25 Age : 30 Location : Somewhere In my head
| Subject: Re: New Dragon Team Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:15 pm | |
| - BlackandWhite wrote:
- Pialga wrote:
- BlackandWhite wrote:
- Well the team is great and all, but there is too much offensive pokemon...
are there any defensive dragons? Like what others said, and most of your sets that you make are too offensive (no not that way). Well i have taunt, so your pretty much forced in an offensive fight. | |
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Dragonmxz
Posts : 39 GU Credits : 4999 Join date : 2010-10-25
| Subject: Re: New Dragon Team Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:39 pm | |
| I havebt played pokemon for a while(too addicted ot Starcraft) but i would not reccomend dragonite as a lead, since azelf and anything else can just come in and set up rocks easily. ill have a more in depth response when i look up how the metagames changed. Also, nit sure how to facotr in the Gen 5 dragons in since even smogon has no anaylsis on them thus far.
Oh, and its cool to see eveyone back, altho i noticed some people changed there names(cdplayer,SSHG) | |
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Pialga
Posts : 535 GU Credits : 5270 Join date : 2010-10-25 Age : 30 Location : Somewhere In my head
| Subject: Re: New Dragon Team Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:46 pm | |
| - Dragonmxz wrote:
- I havebt played pokemon for a while(too addicted ot Starcraft) but i would not reccomend dragonite as a lead, since azelf and anything else can just come in and set up rocks easily. ill have a more in depth response when i look up how the metagames changed. Also, nit sure how to facotr in the Gen 5 dragons in since even smogon has no anaylsis on them thus far.
Oh, and its cool to see eveyone back, altho i noticed some people changed there names(cdplayer,SSHG) actually Aerodactyl or Sazandora are the leads. | |
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Shnoogle
Posts : 123 GU Credits : 5078 Join date : 2010-10-27
| Subject: Re: New Dragon Team Sat Oct 30, 2010 11:52 am | |
| Oh well my bad then lol sorry
I really cannot rate this well because of the obvious fact that no one will know how the BW metagame will be before it comes out in English | |
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Sir-Mao
Posts : 28 GU Credits : 4994 Join date : 2010-10-31 Age : 32 Location : Castro Valley,CA
| Subject: Re: New Dragon Team Sun Oct 31, 2010 5:59 pm | |
| Taunt and entry hazzards are not quiet useful. Since magic mirror ability can reflect them back at the user. Does not mean they are useless but just bit harder to set up. | |
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BlackandWhite
Posts : 458 GU Credits : 5142 Join date : 2010-10-26 Location : :D
| Subject: Re: New Dragon Team Sun Oct 31, 2010 6:57 pm | |
| - Sir-Mao wrote:
- Taunt and entry hazzards are not quiet useful. Since magic mirror ability can reflect them back at the user. Does not mean they are useless but just bit harder to set up.
Words have not been better spoken | |
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Dragonmxz
Posts : 39 GU Credits : 4999 Join date : 2010-10-25
| Subject: Re: New Dragon Team Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:57 am | |
| a bit harder to set up? currently, the only pokemon who can use said ability( and thats assuming they let you use there dream world versions) is espeon, natu and xatu, all fairly terrible pokemon in the NU category and all being psychic type. Probaly isn't going to be a deal breaker for most users of entry hazards, and since some run U-turn it might even be a detriment to the overall team. | |
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Shnoogle
Posts : 123 GU Credits : 5078 Join date : 2010-10-27
| Subject: Re: New Dragon Team Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:10 pm | |
| Yeah, an ability that 3 Pokémon have should never mean to not use a move, especially when one of them is NFE. Does Electivire's Motor Drive and Jolteon's Volt Absorb keep Mismagius from using Thunderbolt?
I DO Agree with the fact that hazards will be harder to keep down this metagame with the introduction of the bullseye (I think that is what it is called) that lets the holder hit, say Normal type attacks on Ghost Pokémon or a levitating Pokémon with EQ, but your reason why was just a little odd. However, this does not mean that hazards are useless. Think about it, it is a reverse psychology thing... People assume that they do not need a spinner because they think that their opponent will not use hazards knowing they are simple to spin away. Therefore, you can surprise them by throwing out a couple layers of Spikes and Toxic Spikes and watch their team crumble because they thought that no one would be using hazards. | |
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FullofWin
Posts : 70 GU Credits : 5028 Join date : 2010-11-01 Location : Portland, Oregon
| Subject: Re: New Dragon Team Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:05 pm | |
| 1st: DM is DEFINITELY better 2nd: Please post some explanations for roles, as it seems your team just attacks and dies right now | |
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BlackandWhite
Posts : 458 GU Credits : 5142 Join date : 2010-10-26 Location : :D
| Subject: Re: New Dragon Team Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:22 pm | |
| So people are forgetting Stealth Rock can be set up by SRers from gen 4 because you can transfer the pokemon. | |
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